For people with chronic illness that isn’t recognized (e.g. me/cfs/fm; autoimmune), repurposed drugs are all we’ve got. We’re already, quite literally, ridiculed when we walk into a doc’s office or ED. When it’s deigned that we get any treatment at all, it’s usually repurposed, off-patent anti-seizure medicine or a newer and more expensive reformulation that’s less effective. Autoimmune is often treated with repurposed antimalarials and corticosteroids.
When the anti-ivermectin hysteria began I was concerned we’d lose access to the repurposed drugs we’re allowed to have. If CA bill 2098 hadn’t been squashed in court it would’ve set a horrible precedent for those of us whose conditioners have no consensus on dx or tx. We were very close to losing what little help we have.
Because then all these clot shots would not be needed………I called “FOUL” very early when HCQ was verboten… I took it for 60 days with Cipro in 1996 for Lyme Disease.
Yes, the banning of Ivermectin was equally wrong. And when both of those drugs were discredited by the CDC and the FDA, that was the moment when our government health officials like Fauci should have been truthful with us about what “ COVID” actually was. Instead they scared and shamed us…. The worst is the FDA’s tweet re Ivermectin “ now stop it, y’all know you’re not horses”…….shame on them.
''So why on earth aren’t we systematically testing them for potential new uses?''
Pharma profits would be less then their desired, all or nothing. No matter who it hurts, damages or kills, as long as its not their loss. Will gov do anything about it? FDA, imo, won't.
Yes! So many fine drugs, herbals and plain old-fashioned medicines that work just fine! I do business with a wonderful herbal company - Barlow Herbals, founded by a master herbalist long ago. Today the company is run by his descendants who still wild harvest some special herbs in the western mountains. I love their products and use many of them daily!
"For example, to prove a medicine didn’t work, they used the lowest doses for the shortest courses while enrolling patients as late as possible. . ." Exactly this is being done in the propaganda war against antibiotics, to falsely show "resistance." Antibiotics and ivermectin should be made widely available over-the-counter.
It is so encouraging to know that there is a small group of doctors willing to stand up to the drug cartel! I am especially encouraged to see Dr. Marik's research on repurposing drugs on cancer. It's frightening to think how many have needlessly died. So many chronic illness have well-documented alternative cures. I'm most excited about the recent development from the Harvard psychiatrists who are curing their mental health patients from diet alone.
Because years ago no economic benefit for the general public was ever gleaned from the government allowing medical companies to advertise prescription drugs to the general public a dollar for dollar fee should be charged to the medical companies on every dollar spent on pharmaceutical advertising to specifically be used for clinical trials of natural, historical remedies and out of patent traditional drugs. These funds should be managed by a completely independent organization free of government and pharmaceutical meddling.
Multiple comments, especially on the graphic from c19early.org
That graphic understates the effectiveness of the non-establishment medicine re-purposed drugs. The website has additional graphics under the headings prophylaxis and early treatment. In addition, the all studies data, the prophylaxis data, and the early treatment data can be further specialized to examine reduction in mortality. In each case, HCQ and IVM look better and better, especially when coupled with the low cost.
I go further in studying the meta-analyses. The point estimate in the confidence intervals can be misleading when we consider the width of some of those intervals. The wide intervals occur for relatively new drugs for which few studies have been performed. In some cases, the upper end of the CI shows that the data is consistent with the drug having negative efficacy.
Thus, I rely not on the point estimate in the middle of the interval, but on the lowest estimate of efficacy (the right side of the interval on the graph, or the minimum risk reduction). Here, IVM is the clear winner on prophylaxis mortality; HCQ is the second best on early treatment mortality (beaten only by a drug that costs $2100 per dose).
In our home, we don't wait to get sick. Every time I go out, I take a C-D-zinc-elderberry gummy, and use Xlear nasal spray. If we come home and feel we're getting sick, we escalate to Enovid nasal spray and banlangen Chinese tea. No jabs since fall 2019, and we've had far fewer URI's than we used to, even with compromised immune systems.
Excellent. My daughter has two functional regenerative alternative medical offices and uses many kinds of natural remedies. She takes care of patients who had been vax injured. She detoxes all vaxxed patients. I take ivermectin once a week as a preventative. God bless you all
You had me until 'public-private partnership'.... The public part is completely corrupt as the last few years have shown in detail. Instead, a private group that transparently publishes the protocols and results from off-label usage against a particular disease.
Not the way it's been "written" or "trained". It has been told that it can't say certain things and I am sure that "ivermectin good" is NOT in its lexicon.
I don’t think so. AI has built in biases and is not free of political influence. It’s too bad but programmers still put their own biases within the answers.
Dr David Martin makes the point that HCQ was popularized and promoted by John Hopkins and the University named for him and the original version of CDC: "How funny is it that Johns Hopkins University, that's right, named for Johns Hopkins, the guy who actually popularized hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of malaria, how ironic is it that the very institution funded by the Rockefeller Foundation to celebrate Johns Hopkins, how ironic is it that that Johns Hopkins University was able to turn on its own namesake and say hydroxychloroquine is dangerous? That school has its name because hydroxychloroquine is safe, that's why it has its name.
The CDC used to be before it became the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, the US Malaria Suppression Program in Atlanta, GA, which did what? Advocate for the distribution of hydroxychloroquine."
in RFK Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci it sounds like what you are after here is something Ted Kennedy almost got during the Aids epidemic. There was a point in time in that epidemic where Fauci was floundering and was forced to meet with those advocating for sufferers of Aids. They were going to setup ways for groups similar to the FLCCC today to discover generic medications. I'm not sure how defeat was stolen from the jaws of victory but there may be something to gain by looking at what almost happened before.
For people with chronic illness that isn’t recognized (e.g. me/cfs/fm; autoimmune), repurposed drugs are all we’ve got. We’re already, quite literally, ridiculed when we walk into a doc’s office or ED. When it’s deigned that we get any treatment at all, it’s usually repurposed, off-patent anti-seizure medicine or a newer and more expensive reformulation that’s less effective. Autoimmune is often treated with repurposed antimalarials and corticosteroids.
When the anti-ivermectin hysteria began I was concerned we’d lose access to the repurposed drugs we’re allowed to have. If CA bill 2098 hadn’t been squashed in court it would’ve set a horrible precedent for those of us whose conditioners have no consensus on dx or tx. We were very close to losing what little help we have.
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Because then all these clot shots would not be needed………I called “FOUL” very early when HCQ was verboten… I took it for 60 days with Cipro in 1996 for Lyme Disease.
My husband and I take ivermectin 2X week, no shots and no 'flu-like' viral infections~!
Yes, the banning of Ivermectin was equally wrong. And when both of those drugs were discredited by the CDC and the FDA, that was the moment when our government health officials like Fauci should have been truthful with us about what “ COVID” actually was. Instead they scared and shamed us…. The worst is the FDA’s tweet re Ivermectin “ now stop it, y’all know you’re not horses”…….shame on them.
Shame, shame, shame is right! Jail is another viable option! IMHO
''So why on earth aren’t we systematically testing them for potential new uses?''
Pharma profits would be less then their desired, all or nothing. No matter who it hurts, damages or kills, as long as its not their loss. Will gov do anything about it? FDA, imo, won't.
Thats exactly why we need to defund the FDA, NIH and CDC. Government shutdowns? Wonderful.
Absolutly!!
Yes! So many fine drugs, herbals and plain old-fashioned medicines that work just fine! I do business with a wonderful herbal company - Barlow Herbals, founded by a master herbalist long ago. Today the company is run by his descendants who still wild harvest some special herbs in the western mountains. I love their products and use many of them daily!
Thank you for supporting g the truth!
"For example, to prove a medicine didn’t work, they used the lowest doses for the shortest courses while enrolling patients as late as possible. . ." Exactly this is being done in the propaganda war against antibiotics, to falsely show "resistance." Antibiotics and ivermectin should be made widely available over-the-counter.
It is so encouraging to know that there is a small group of doctors willing to stand up to the drug cartel! I am especially encouraged to see Dr. Marik's research on repurposing drugs on cancer. It's frightening to think how many have needlessly died. So many chronic illness have well-documented alternative cures. I'm most excited about the recent development from the Harvard psychiatrists who are curing their mental health patients from diet alone.
https://fastwell.substack.com/p/how-one-harvard-doc-is-astonishing
Of course, there are also non drug cures for type 2 diabetes
https://fastwell.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-on-curing-type-2-diabetes
And of course, obesity
https://fastwell.substack.com/p/the-new-you-20
Thx for the links. God bless you
Are we still using Run-Death-Is-Near?
Because years ago no economic benefit for the general public was ever gleaned from the government allowing medical companies to advertise prescription drugs to the general public a dollar for dollar fee should be charged to the medical companies on every dollar spent on pharmaceutical advertising to specifically be used for clinical trials of natural, historical remedies and out of patent traditional drugs. These funds should be managed by a completely independent organization free of government and pharmaceutical meddling.
Multiple comments, especially on the graphic from c19early.org
That graphic understates the effectiveness of the non-establishment medicine re-purposed drugs. The website has additional graphics under the headings prophylaxis and early treatment. In addition, the all studies data, the prophylaxis data, and the early treatment data can be further specialized to examine reduction in mortality. In each case, HCQ and IVM look better and better, especially when coupled with the low cost.
I go further in studying the meta-analyses. The point estimate in the confidence intervals can be misleading when we consider the width of some of those intervals. The wide intervals occur for relatively new drugs for which few studies have been performed. In some cases, the upper end of the CI shows that the data is consistent with the drug having negative efficacy.
Thus, I rely not on the point estimate in the middle of the interval, but on the lowest estimate of efficacy (the right side of the interval on the graph, or the minimum risk reduction). Here, IVM is the clear winner on prophylaxis mortality; HCQ is the second best on early treatment mortality (beaten only by a drug that costs $2100 per dose).
In our home, we don't wait to get sick. Every time I go out, I take a C-D-zinc-elderberry gummy, and use Xlear nasal spray. If we come home and feel we're getting sick, we escalate to Enovid nasal spray and banlangen Chinese tea. No jabs since fall 2019, and we've had far fewer URI's than we used to, even with compromised immune systems.
Excellent. My daughter has two functional regenerative alternative medical offices and uses many kinds of natural remedies. She takes care of patients who had been vax injured. She detoxes all vaxxed patients. I take ivermectin once a week as a preventative. God bless you all
Hmm...Fauci and pricks at CDC/FDA/NIH want all Trump voters dead??? C'mon man...that can't be it!!
Time to crack it open like the Branch Dravidian Complex. ATF knows how, sort of...
Well written
You had me until 'public-private partnership'.... The public part is completely corrupt as the last few years have shown in detail. Instead, a private group that transparently publishes the protocols and results from off-label usage against a particular disease.
I just want to say that the link that was provided to view senator Johnson's round table is not totally complete.
If anyone is interested to see the total round table which is 10 minutes longer I believe you can go to children's health defense website and download it. This link below will give you the full version. https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/events/what-are-federal-health-agencies-and-the-covid-cartel-hiding-or-feb/ron-johnson-roundtable-discussion-feb-26/?utm_source=luminate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=chdtv&utm_id=20240226
Thank you!
Can we use AI to analyze the right data set to show what REALLY works and what doesn’t?
Not the way it's been "written" or "trained". It has been told that it can't say certain things and I am sure that "ivermectin good" is NOT in its lexicon.
Yup. But we COULD use it this way.. if we we could get things aligned in a more productive direction. How? I dont know..
I don’t think so. AI has built in biases and is not free of political influence. It’s too bad but programmers still put their own biases within the answers.
Dr David Martin makes the point that HCQ was popularized and promoted by John Hopkins and the University named for him and the original version of CDC: "How funny is it that Johns Hopkins University, that's right, named for Johns Hopkins, the guy who actually popularized hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of malaria, how ironic is it that the very institution funded by the Rockefeller Foundation to celebrate Johns Hopkins, how ironic is it that that Johns Hopkins University was able to turn on its own namesake and say hydroxychloroquine is dangerous? That school has its name because hydroxychloroquine is safe, that's why it has its name.
The CDC used to be before it became the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, the US Malaria Suppression Program in Atlanta, GA, which did what? Advocate for the distribution of hydroxychloroquine."
Ironic, much?
in RFK Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci it sounds like what you are after here is something Ted Kennedy almost got during the Aids epidemic. There was a point in time in that epidemic where Fauci was floundering and was forced to meet with those advocating for sufferers of Aids. They were going to setup ways for groups similar to the FLCCC today to discover generic medications. I'm not sure how defeat was stolen from the jaws of victory but there may be something to gain by looking at what almost happened before.