Not to not that, but all the vegetable oils are produced using toxic chemicals. The national heart foundations were originally funded by the sugar industry and the chemical industrial complex joined in. It’s difficult to to trust any research these days
Re diabetes, all I can say is that those people are morons. I know you have to be more polite, but as a spouse of someone who reversed their insulin resistance in a month on a diet of meat, natural fat, and very little fruits with lower carb veggies, I will say it.
Also, lots of nutrition studies that claim fat and meat cause adverse effects also include veg oils. Which along with carbs is what is put in rat chow in the labs when they wanna induce diabetes in the lab rats. So. Giving the research subject thick slabs of real butter on a slice of bread and then claiming it was the butter not the bread that caused the problem is disingenuous at best.
As far as plants being more nutritious, well, yeah, if it’s working for ya’, then have at it. However, eating nose-to-tail with organ meats give a robust array of nutrients. And regardless, nutrients in meat and eggs are more bioavailable (easy to absorb) than those in plants.
Regarding environmental impact, I think you have a typo… don’t blame meat for the problems introduced by the meat industry? Well, for problems caused by feeding livestock row crop feed in confined feeding operations, yes. Put the livestock out on regeneratively managed pastures, and both the livestock and the environment benefit. As do the people who eat the fermented grass and forage in the form of burgers, steak, and bacon.
". . . who eat the fermented grass and forage in the form of burgers, steak, and bacon."
Actually, what ruminants REALLY "eat" are keytones such as hydroxybutarate produced in the rumen from consuming the fiber in their forage. This is very close to eating a HIGH FAT DIET, NOT high carb, except for feedlot animals on a high corn ration.
Coincidentally of course, since the ExSpurts have nothing but our best interests at heart- I have gone to a 90-95% meat diet. Mostly red and fatty. I have added 20-50 lbs on every exercise at the gym. My mountain bike speed is up about 40%. Literally before the diet changes, 65 year old guys with giant Santa bellies were passing me on the trails like I was standing still. Now I am nipping on the heels of razor thin 20 year olds. I’m 56 and chubby. Just today an article popped up on my Google feed about high carb’s giving longevity. Sorry if I’m skeptical.
Same here. I'm about 98% carnivore (mostly beef and lamb). At age 61, my hair is no longer gray and I look much younger, and that happened fast. At my 31-yr-old son's wedding, someone thought I was his sister. Despite eating high fat, I've lost all my cellulite. Doctors are indoctrinated with lies and falsehoods during medical school, and they're too busy to seek out the truth.
That’s fantastic. Yes. Most doctors are simply indoctrinated. It’s amazing how supposedly highly intelligent people have absolutely no ability to think or analyze. Our doctor did a pivot after realizing that noone was actually improving with traditional methods. She laments the loss of income, but sleeps much better at night.
The more we are informed about any subject, the better the choices we are able make when it comes to deciding which way we want to go! It is a fundamental principle that applies to all of our decision making processes and it is one that most certainly applies to food choices!
I faced this question about nutrition nearly thirty years ago. Now, well into my eighth decade of life, I am happy to report that I followed the advice I discovered in Professor T. Colin Campbell’s massive study on diet and published in “The China Study,” most probably the largest study ever undertaken on diet.
So far it has worked for me! Look out nineties, here I come!
Don't you know that eating carrots can kill you, and here's the proof:
Nearly everybody has eaten carrots. Later, everyone who ate them died.
Conclusion: carrots will kill you!
Well, the anti-meat crowd IS THAT STUPID, TOO!!!!
Humans evolved eating meat.
Animal flesh (including organs, skin, bones) is the most nutrient-dense food (eggs and milk also) and is virtually toxin-free UNLIKE PLANTS that ALL contain various amounts of toxins and anti-nutrients.
Humans are the consumate apex preditors, designed to be hunters.
We do NOT have the digestive systems of herbivores or even gorillas and chimps.
All vegans are unhealthy, they just don't always admit it.
Thank you for this! Interesting timing since I was just cooking my supper and was feeling a little guilty for the portion of grass-fed beef I was having. Were you eavesdropping? Thank you for all the helpful and healthy posts!
My appetite is not satisfied until I’ve had enough meat. My stomach knows. Needs meat every day. All the people I know who have sworn off meat, have become sickly and weak.
There’s probably something in meat that satisfies your hunger and makes you healthy and strong that can’t be completely replicated by plant protein. And bugs are such a weird and disgusting solution that I am surprised anyone would even think about eating them.
This is absolute horseshit. Livestock is responsible for over half of human caused greenhouse gas emissions and is also the number one cause of deforestation and other habitat destruction, which is rampant right now and causing a Sixth Mass Extinction as we type. You all need to stick to health care and let people who actually work on environmental crises handle the environmental impacts of animal products.
Speaking of health, It is has also been well documented for decades that plant based diets are more healthy. Is there anything besides C0VlD that you ridiculous reactionary clowns understand?
Balanced and sensible, sometimes we need to use our common sense rather than listen to the experts, when the experts are conflicted which we should all know by now is most of the time. Sad state of affairs, but it is liberating to know "experts" are of full of it, most of the time.
Dropping subscription to emails over your bullshit anti-vegan article. You appear to be funded by the meat industry. Yey watching the documentary Forks Over Knives". Why don't you just skip down to McDonalds now and get a 20$ bag of saturated fat while you destroy the environment at the same time. Meat eaters should be in a different insurance pool than vegans along with their smoking and drug taking buddies.
I remember this in the 1980's while living in England. There was a local butcher in every neighborhood. I suspect, 'back then' they sourced from non-CAFO operations. They would custom cut what you needed, whole birds for holidays...
Even earlier, mid/late 70's...I was in Crete for a few weeks. It was open stall butchers, outside. That was some good lamb.
Our family ate very high quality, affordable meat which was available at the grocery store. Meat has been changed from what I grew up with the 1950's and on - in both quality and "adjusted price".
.price way up and quality way down, to the point I have not bought any ground red meat for a very long time or any "less prion?" solid red meat either for a long time. As I noticed the quality decline and as I do not eat in restaurants I did wonder if at some point the restaurants monopolized the good meat?.
A neighbor "up north" bought a 1/2? pasture raised cow from another neighbor. "When I move "up north" I may think about again eating beef.
Thank You, I looked a bit, for me much to high a price for meat when I can buy a whole chicken at walmart, with curbside pickup, for 1/10 the cost per pound. If I was unemployed, such as the just fired local school superintendent, who I heard today was getting $250,000 per year for the next 3 years for getting fired, perhaps because our community's children can not read or do simple math, I might try - but the fact wild pastures is not out front with their prices - I would say No.
Look around. You might find a regional supplier of pasture raised/pasture finished meats such as, Walden Meats in New England. They source from local, small enterprises, all certified and inspected by Walden's as well as Organic certs.
Anything you can do to get away from CAFO produced meats (and Walmart is a distributor) will treat your body better. Too, another way to look at it ...short term costs versus long-term benefits. I'd suggest that even though it might seem expensive, you might have to cut somewhere else, the long term benefits/costs to your overall well being (medically etc) might outweigh your costs today.
Another thing to keep in mind...mRNA products will soon be headed to the CAFO herds and flocks.
You can actually go onto their site and put together a cart without paying. I have a 15lb subscription with a few added bonus pounds that costs me about $140. So it’s easily $8-$10 per lb on average. It’s the only place I could find a variety of meat that is grass fed and free range. It isn’t cheap but I was already paying at least $7 per lb for grass fed beef and couldn’t find anything else in the store but the ground meat.
Not to not that, but all the vegetable oils are produced using toxic chemicals. The national heart foundations were originally funded by the sugar industry and the chemical industrial complex joined in. It’s difficult to to trust any research these days
Meat is amazing.
Re diabetes, all I can say is that those people are morons. I know you have to be more polite, but as a spouse of someone who reversed their insulin resistance in a month on a diet of meat, natural fat, and very little fruits with lower carb veggies, I will say it.
Also, lots of nutrition studies that claim fat and meat cause adverse effects also include veg oils. Which along with carbs is what is put in rat chow in the labs when they wanna induce diabetes in the lab rats. So. Giving the research subject thick slabs of real butter on a slice of bread and then claiming it was the butter not the bread that caused the problem is disingenuous at best.
As far as plants being more nutritious, well, yeah, if it’s working for ya’, then have at it. However, eating nose-to-tail with organ meats give a robust array of nutrients. And regardless, nutrients in meat and eggs are more bioavailable (easy to absorb) than those in plants.
Regarding environmental impact, I think you have a typo… don’t blame meat for the problems introduced by the meat industry? Well, for problems caused by feeding livestock row crop feed in confined feeding operations, yes. Put the livestock out on regeneratively managed pastures, and both the livestock and the environment benefit. As do the people who eat the fermented grass and forage in the form of burgers, steak, and bacon.
". . . who eat the fermented grass and forage in the form of burgers, steak, and bacon."
Actually, what ruminants REALLY "eat" are keytones such as hydroxybutarate produced in the rumen from consuming the fiber in their forage. This is very close to eating a HIGH FAT DIET, NOT high carb, except for feedlot animals on a high corn ration.
Yes, actually, you are right! I keep forgetting that crucial fact!
AND, we humans need those ketones too! For our own gut bugs, which make so many vitamins and other good stuff for us!
And studies that purportedly showed saturated fats to be unhealthy, fed rats Crisco!!!
Coincidentally of course, since the ExSpurts have nothing but our best interests at heart- I have gone to a 90-95% meat diet. Mostly red and fatty. I have added 20-50 lbs on every exercise at the gym. My mountain bike speed is up about 40%. Literally before the diet changes, 65 year old guys with giant Santa bellies were passing me on the trails like I was standing still. Now I am nipping on the heels of razor thin 20 year olds. I’m 56 and chubby. Just today an article popped up on my Google feed about high carb’s giving longevity. Sorry if I’m skeptical.
Same here. I'm about 98% carnivore (mostly beef and lamb). At age 61, my hair is no longer gray and I look much younger, and that happened fast. At my 31-yr-old son's wedding, someone thought I was his sister. Despite eating high fat, I've lost all my cellulite. Doctors are indoctrinated with lies and falsehoods during medical school, and they're too busy to seek out the truth.
That’s fantastic. Yes. Most doctors are simply indoctrinated. It’s amazing how supposedly highly intelligent people have absolutely no ability to think or analyze. Our doctor did a pivot after realizing that noone was actually improving with traditional methods. She laments the loss of income, but sleeps much better at night.
Oh, that's awesome, and far too rare! I hope others follow. With FLCCC weighing in on the meat debate, word will be getting out!
The more we are informed about any subject, the better the choices we are able make when it comes to deciding which way we want to go! It is a fundamental principle that applies to all of our decision making processes and it is one that most certainly applies to food choices!
I faced this question about nutrition nearly thirty years ago. Now, well into my eighth decade of life, I am happy to report that I followed the advice I discovered in Professor T. Colin Campbell’s massive study on diet and published in “The China Study,” most probably the largest study ever undertaken on diet.
So far it has worked for me! Look out nineties, here I come!
Don't you know that eating carrots can kill you, and here's the proof:
Nearly everybody has eaten carrots. Later, everyone who ate them died.
Conclusion: carrots will kill you!
Well, the anti-meat crowd IS THAT STUPID, TOO!!!!
Humans evolved eating meat.
Animal flesh (including organs, skin, bones) is the most nutrient-dense food (eggs and milk also) and is virtually toxin-free UNLIKE PLANTS that ALL contain various amounts of toxins and anti-nutrients.
Humans are the consumate apex preditors, designed to be hunters.
We do NOT have the digestive systems of herbivores or even gorillas and chimps.
All vegans are unhealthy, they just don't always admit it.
Thank you for this! Interesting timing since I was just cooking my supper and was feeling a little guilty for the portion of grass-fed beef I was having. Were you eavesdropping? Thank you for all the helpful and healthy posts!
Eat at LEAST a pound of meat a day, but in two meals (or three), for more efficient utilization. And with all the fat.
My appetite is not satisfied until I’ve had enough meat. My stomach knows. Needs meat every day. All the people I know who have sworn off meat, have become sickly and weak.
There’s probably something in meat that satisfies your hunger and makes you healthy and strong that can’t be completely replicated by plant protein. And bugs are such a weird and disgusting solution that I am surprised anyone would even think about eating them.
This is absolute horseshit. Livestock is responsible for over half of human caused greenhouse gas emissions and is also the number one cause of deforestation and other habitat destruction, which is rampant right now and causing a Sixth Mass Extinction as we type. You all need to stick to health care and let people who actually work on environmental crises handle the environmental impacts of animal products.
Speaking of health, It is has also been well documented for decades that plant based diets are more healthy. Is there anything besides C0VlD that you ridiculous reactionary clowns understand?
References:
Livestock Impacts
1) https://awellfedworld.org/livestock-climate-advanced
2) https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass
Plant Based Diets
https://nutritionstudies.org/the-china-study
I grew up on a beef ranch. I will always be a carnivore!
Balanced and sensible, sometimes we need to use our common sense rather than listen to the experts, when the experts are conflicted which we should all know by now is most of the time. Sad state of affairs, but it is liberating to know "experts" are of full of it, most of the time.
Next: I want to hear about ze bugz. Tell me how good the chitin is for my brain. Now I'm off to get a steak...
Dropping subscription to emails over your bullshit anti-vegan article. You appear to be funded by the meat industry. Yey watching the documentary Forks Over Knives". Why don't you just skip down to McDonalds now and get a 20$ bag of saturated fat while you destroy the environment at the same time. Meat eaters should be in a different insurance pool than vegans along with their smoking and drug taking buddies.
I gave you a like so you wouldn't feel like a vegetable.
...too generous IMHO
I remember the days of the local butcher, with saw dust on the floor . Yum 😋.
Dating ourselves.
I remember this in the 1980's while living in England. There was a local butcher in every neighborhood. I suspect, 'back then' they sourced from non-CAFO operations. They would custom cut what you needed, whole birds for holidays...
Even earlier, mid/late 70's...I was in Crete for a few weeks. It was open stall butchers, outside. That was some good lamb.
Excellent and the color of the meat was so different than today
That's true as well. Although, the pasture raised/finished meats we now get locally are just that.
It's not a myth.
It's eugenics.
https://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Physical-Degeneration-Weston-Price/dp/0916764206
Our family ate very high quality, affordable meat which was available at the grocery store. Meat has been changed from what I grew up with the 1950's and on - in both quality and "adjusted price".
.price way up and quality way down, to the point I have not bought any ground red meat for a very long time or any "less prion?" solid red meat either for a long time. As I noticed the quality decline and as I do not eat in restaurants I did wonder if at some point the restaurants monopolized the good meat?.
A neighbor "up north" bought a 1/2? pasture raised cow from another neighbor. "When I move "up north" I may think about again eating beef.
You can buy all kinds of grass fed meat from Wild Pastures.
Thank You, I looked a bit, for me much to high a price for meat when I can buy a whole chicken at walmart, with curbside pickup, for 1/10 the cost per pound. If I was unemployed, such as the just fired local school superintendent, who I heard today was getting $250,000 per year for the next 3 years for getting fired, perhaps because our community's children can not read or do simple math, I might try - but the fact wild pastures is not out front with their prices - I would say No.
Look around. You might find a regional supplier of pasture raised/pasture finished meats such as, Walden Meats in New England. They source from local, small enterprises, all certified and inspected by Walden's as well as Organic certs.
Anything you can do to get away from CAFO produced meats (and Walmart is a distributor) will treat your body better. Too, another way to look at it ...short term costs versus long-term benefits. I'd suggest that even though it might seem expensive, you might have to cut somewhere else, the long term benefits/costs to your overall well being (medically etc) might outweigh your costs today.
Another thing to keep in mind...mRNA products will soon be headed to the CAFO herds and flocks.
Thank You, Yes mRNA and what "they" can put in our food supply is a fearsome prospect.
You can actually go onto their site and put together a cart without paying. I have a 15lb subscription with a few added bonus pounds that costs me about $140. So it’s easily $8-$10 per lb on average. It’s the only place I could find a variety of meat that is grass fed and free range. It isn’t cheap but I was already paying at least $7 per lb for grass fed beef and couldn’t find anything else in the store but the ground meat.