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Alan Gruning, DO's avatar

What the FLCCC is doing is amazing work. That is why I joined. I want to get a message to Dr. Been. Your teachings are excellent and relevant. However, I have not seen anything about the relationship of Long COVID and CIRS. Those of us following Ritchie Shoemaker around the world and using his protocols have tested thousands of long COVID patients and found that they all have CIRS from water damaged buildings. The HLA defect was primed by COVID, which acts as a Biotoxin. The symptoms are exactly the same as he described decades ago and we still treat for CIRS today. All of the long COVID patients get better with his protocol. Please look into this and contact me if you would like to discuss this further. It is a missing piece of the puzzle.

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SEF's avatar

Let's compare the gold-standard randomized clinical trial evidence on the mortality impact of mRNA vaccines versus ivermectin.

mRNA vaccines:

COVID deaths: 2 vaccine vs. 5 placebo

non-COVID deaths: 29 vaccine vs. 25 placebo

Overall: 4 excess non-COVID deaths for every 3 less COVID deaths (i.e. 4 KILLED FOR EVERY 3 SAVED)

Pfizer: https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2110345/suppl_file/nejmoa2110345_appendix.pdf – Table S4

Moderna: https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2113017/suppl_file/nejmoa2113017_appendix.pdf – Table S26

Pretend that those results were for ivermectin, would the establishment say ivermectin is safe, effective, and livesaving?

So what were the mortality results for ivermectin in the 18 published randomized clinical trials totaling >7000 COVID patients, conducted from 2020-2022?

Overall mortality: 29% DECREASED with ivermectin (raw totals were 67 deaths in ivermectin groups vs. 102 deaths in control groups, out of about ~3600 each)

https://c19ivm.org/meta.html#fig_fprd

Note on ivermectin trials: almost all large trials delayed ivermectin until 5-7 days after symptoms started, most only gave ivermectin for 3 days, and gave ivermectin in isolation outside of the protocols that almost all ivermectin proponents use. In contrast, the extremely successful clinical trial of Paxlovid (0 deaths Paxlovid vs. 13 deaths placebo) began Paxlovid an average of 3 days after symptoms started, gave Paxlovid for 5 days twice a day, and Paxlovid itself is a COMBINATION drug.

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